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Interview with Mr Meas Nee, Village Focus, Cambodia

Meas Nee (centre) with ALCS participants

'Restoring life in villages is like working with a computer. To install a new programme, you have to understand the capacity of the software.'

Meas Nee is director of the Cambodian organisation Village Focus. His organisation focuses on indigenous people and cultural preservation.

Meas Nee has always been intrigued by social cohesion in rural communities. ‘I was born in a small village (300 people) in the southeast of Cambodia, near the border with Vietnam and the Ho Chi Ming trail. The Vietcong was visible there, and after the war it left a structure that was weak.’

Shortly after the war Pol Pot came into power. ‘I lived in the town through the entire ordeal. After the regime, there was no social structure left in my village or anywhere else in Cambodia. In that regard Cambodia differs from the other countries in Southeast Asia. Every institution of society had to be restarted but the people were still passive in the beginning. I decided to write a book about it.’

His first book titled: ‘Towards restoring life in Cambodian Villages’, and was published in 1995. ‘You cannot easily change the damage caused by the war, or caused by the systematic breaking of relationships, or the loss of dignity. That is the focus in my first book. The subject has been on my mind ever since. So in fact I’ve been reading and thinking about Civic Driven Change long before this programme with Context came into being.’

ALCS in progress

A big storm

‘The problem in my country is that we got peace in a time wherein the world quickly changed. There was a big storm, the Cold War came to an end and globalisation took a flight. Cambodia was so vulnerable. The citizens were not clever enough. NGOs entered and tried to help. But the conditions set by these NGOs were strict and therefore limiting the involvement of the Cambodian citizens. I always tell the world: ‘the first thing in order to help communities in conflict areas is to make relationships, not to make projects. The major goal of the redevelopment of the community is to help village people to regain dignity and unity’.

Aid often is implemented top down rather than bottom up, subsequently failing to reach its full potential, according to Meas Nee. ‘I don’t blame NGOs, but the approach isn’t successful. You cannot approach each community in the same manner. Each village has its own history. You can’t work with a standard approach, because every case is unique.’

After his first book, Meas Nee published another three. The second: ‘Learning for transformation’ and the third: Towards understanding Cambodian Village, beyond the war’. This month his last book will be published.

Meas Nee became familiar with Context in Cape Town in 2004, where he met one of the consultants. His experiences with the Action Learning Case Study are positive. ‘It was constructive and it created awareness.’

ALCS in progress

In July 2009 he implemented the case study in Cambodia, during a workshop with about 30 people. ‘We worked in small groups of people. We discussed a lot, not only in classes, but also during the evening. We were located in a very rural area and stayed in small huts. During the days we walked across the rice fields. I experienced that it was fruitful to stay with them. People now trust us more.’

‘The workshop doesn’t provide citizens an incentive. But it does rearrange their village history. It’s important to let people tell their story. If people learn to tell their history, they can look at the future.’

Mr Nee gives an example of what happened after the Action Learning Case Study. ‘Shortly after the workshop one of the committee members called. He told me that the citizens tried to get an official title on their land. That’s important, because sometimes they left their land unused and asked the government for more land. Now they try to resolve their own problem by making the land more productive. They are more actively involved in their own community.’

Subgroup work during the ALCS

Migration

A big concern according to Meas Nee is migration. Rural communities face problems, because youth migrates to more urban areas. ‘We need to find a way to mobilize people to go back to the rural areas. The gap between the city and the rural areas gets bigger and bigger. That’s dangerous.’

In order to find a way to fight the migration problem, Meas Nee looks at individual stories first. ‘We always have to ask ourselves: ‘How does the new idea merge with the existing?’’. Nee compares changes in communities with a computer. ‘When you want to install a new program, you first have to find out how the old software works. Otherwise the new programme might not be compatible. You have to check the capacity of the software. If not - and you do install the new program - the computer will crash.’